The Kundalini is like a rope with many threads. She rises by unfolding her coils piercing every chakra. The width of the Kundalini or the number of threads start diminishing as She ascends if the higher chakras are not open or if the piercing points in the chakras are constricted.
If the lower chakras are open the Kundalini rises as a whole, but if the higher chakras are not open then the constriction does allow few threads to pass. So it is very necessary to have at least the lower charkas cleansed. In the western mind the higher chakras are better but as their Mooladhara chakra is in jeopardy, the force is very weak and their own sensitivity
very poor.
Kundalini is like a rope
Now the head gets clearer but some feel a mild pressure or throbbing at Sahasrara. The Agnya crossing creates the thoughtless awareness. You feel the silence of
Sahasrara. At Sahasrara the Kundalini accumulates. A kind of release starts as the Brahmarandra (fontanel bone) opens.
It works slowly with some, but with most of them it is with a gush. At that moment, the sadhaka (disciple) feels the cool breeze of the vibrations. This is “realisation”. There are many who have got jagruti (awakening) and have got the curing power but they cannot remain in thoughtless awareness.
They touch it for a minute or so. But the process of Kundalini oozing out works out with time and ultimately they reach a stage of doubtless awareness.
When the kundalini rises without any hurdles, it reaches the Agnya and spreads on the lower brain plate like a cloud, so a heaviness or sleepy feeling crawls. I say that first the mother puts you to sleep. The second feeling is when the vital force of Kundalini melts down over the Ida and Pingala.
As if the cloud of the vital force starts pouring bliss. Gradually the head feels as if the lead is being taken off. One feels relaxed. Now again these two channels carry it down up to Nabhi and now a new force from Kundalini joins it. … Then the triple force rises which opens the Agnya. At this time eyes get closed. The pupils start dilating.
With some like X it was a quick permanent ascent, he felt as if two bath of ice fell on his hands and started melting. The cooling crawled into his Being. If the Visshuddhi is doubtful or stretched and constricted, then, one does not feel the vibrations despite realisation, meaning the piercing of the Brahmarandra.
The collective consciousness is felt even before the Kundalini pierces the Brahmarandra fully. You start feeling the burning on the fingers and also the discriminating styles of collective consciousness are manifested’
Reference : Speech by H. H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, London, 1977
What happens just when our physical body dies?
Question and Answer
Sahaja Yogini : – What happens just when our physical body dies?
Shri Mataji: Your physical body, when you die, you don’t die fully, only a part of it would die, you see, comes out like a – what you call – that portion is called as the earth element, you see, whatever is made of the earth element comes out. And the water element gradually disappears, evaporates you see, becomes smaller and smaller [inaudible].
But if you are a sort of a person who is very much still desirous and not a satisfied person at all, and you have some hatreds left in you and sort of a vengeance left in you – such people, you see, don’t want to die, really, in the real sense, because they think that, “We should be somewhere in the atmosphere”. So, they hang around. They do that.
Sahaja Yogini: As spirits.
Shri Mataji: As spirits.
Sahaja Yogini: And make a nuisance of themselves.
Shri Mataji: Yes, they are very busybodies.
Sahaja Yogini: Right.
Shri Mataji: They can be quite troublesome, they can be very harmful, they can be cruel. Some of them are monsters also. Some of them are evil geniuses. And they are all captured by these horrid people. And they use them. And they introduce these into you. And they give them names you see.
They can even give the name of Jesus, they can give a name of Rama, they give this, that and all that. And they can give them this work.
There is no question of transformation. No question of transformation. The only thing what they give you is a way by which there is another spirit that comes in. And then you feel a little better because the spirit is looking after you; you are like a drunken person, you see. You are like a drunken person.
Your awareness is absolutely zero at that time. But another one is working through you. Your instrument is used.
May God Bless You.
Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji? Is there a possibility of any our chakras being possessed, by any of these spirits?
Shri Mataji: What is it?
Sahaja Yogi: The chakras, can they be possessed?
Shri Mataji: Chakras do not. Chakras do not. But you see, what happens that the chakra is a thing made out of two sorts of things, you see: the left-hand side and the right-hand side. So, what happens, in the chakras there is deity placed inside that thing.
Now it is a sort of a three-trap door, you can call it, a three-trap door. By two traps coming together, it makes a chakra, like that. And inside this is awakened, a deity sitting down there, which is working out, regulating everything.
But in the beginning when you are not Realised, then the Deities are doing their job, all right? They are balancing you, they’re looking after you; everything they are doing through the parasympathetic activity, which is there all the time acting in you. But you are not aware of them at all. You are not aware of your chakras, neither you can control. Because parasympathetic you cannot control. Now, what is a parasympathetic? I will tell you.
Supposing you want to increase the beat of your heart, you start running, the beat of the heart increases. But it reduces by itself. You cannot do anything about it. So, the one that reduces it, that is known as the ‘auto’ we can call it or whatever they may call it.
That is the one that is done through the parasympathetic activity. It gives you the balance, it also gives you the harmony it gives you the peace and the sleep, and all those things come thought the parasympathetic. Now this parasympathetic is the central thing that I showed yesterday, the Mahalaxmi power. That is the one who is expressed outside in the gross as parasympathetic.
You see, yesterday, the whole lecture turned out to be so much of incarnations that I could not talk on this medical terminology. But maybe I might be able to do it next time when I say or otherwise. Because people get bored with these scientific words also.
Now these Deities which are settled down on these chakras, you see, they sleep off. If there is too much activity on both the sides, and a man in his own freedom refuses to listen to them, he goes to the extremes of one thing, they just give up.
They are not bothered. At a- till one point they go on working, suggesting. Also, they make you, you know, supposing you are overdoing something. Then you feel heated up, you feel exhausted – that is the indication all coming from them. But still, you don’t listen. You go on doing bad things.
You go on doing horrible things then they sleep off. So, once they sleep off, then what happens that your mind, your mind itself is a creation of these elements, you see.
The mind is the creation of the elements. So, we have in the mind, ego and the superego, both the things. So, in the ego and superego, an entity can enter into your ego and superego – and through that, they act on your sympathetic nervous system.
For example, if somebody enters into the ego. This fellow TM mostly puts them on the ego side. So, you see what happens: he takes up your ego, he starts working. And you feel very dynamic for a while. And you start doing a lot of work and you feel relaxed for a while because somebody else has taken your responsibility, you see.
You are not doing anything. But when you are exhausted, after three-four years, you discover that you are nowhere. And you are left high and dry and that fellow disappears. And he makes you very weak. Out of proportion you work, or whatever you do is out of proportion. So, this is what happens with this TM. But he gets all the money for your work. That is what it is.
So, the chakras are in a way not caught up. In the chakras, the Deities are sleeping. So, the area they get it. So, then we have to decide our chakras like this: when the Deities sleep then what happens? The chakras become like this in the sense the areas are formed. Now, these empty areas can be occupied by some other entities. Or could be even in this stage, they can be occupied, in this stage.
When they are fully like this and opened out, that is the best. That stage is the best. But normally it is never so. Normally it is always – at least a minimum for Sahaja Yogis also – they have some space left like that. You see, to be absolutely Sahaja, then this is it that you leave everything to God, it will become like this. That is very difficult, very difficult.
Sahaja Yogi: The ego fights.
Shri Mataji: Ego, yes. Ego is a problem.
Sahaja Yogini: Lack of faith also.
Shri Mataji: That is also true.
But with experience, you must have faith, you see. You try to do it, increase the area by putting more onto it, “All right, let it Mataji, let Mataji do it”. You say like that. Now it works out everything. Now, these people are doing it now. They are understanding the value of that.
Sahaja Yogini: Yes, I found it rather strange, yesterday. When You were trying to raise or raising people’s Kundalini, the time I got it most strongly, I mean most strongly, You hadn’t even said a word. It was when You came in and this lady started to sing, my heart felt as if it was going to burst, and my body was going berserk. I was quite frightened.
Shri Mataji: That is very true. I knew that. Because she sang this song, you see. Even now it will happen.
Sahaja Yogini: Yes.
Shri Mataji: Because what she sang is in my praise, you see, that is the Mahalakshmi praise. Because I am the power behind all these things, so she sang Mahalaxmi praise. And now by that, my chakras, you see, these things started – they got so excited about it and they started flowing. And I told her also, “How am I to speak now?”.
Because my whole body was shaking with her. If you see, when they sing these things to Me, especially when they do my puja, it is so many vibrations. That is why the puja is to be done. But we don’t allow, you see, unless and until you are at a particular stage.
Sahaja Yogini: Well, I thought I had to leave the room. Because I was about to burst. Yes, the longer you sang, the more it got like that.
Singer: It’s is a long piece. I cut it short.
Shri Mataji: Even in India, even if they say a hundred and eight names of the Goddess, they say. And I say, “Now, finished now, you receive it at least”. Because you are not yet that much sort of bigger hearts. You don’t have that bigger heart to receive all that, you see. And I think that you are not receiving all that and then I feel a little uncomfortable, here. That I am giving too much and while you are not receiving. So, then I said, “Stop it. Now it is too much”.
Sahaja Yogini: Then I was just going to ask you because really, I was really a kind of terrifically beating very hard and jumping about. But when I let it go and stopped feeling frightened, it stopped. And then I just got so high it was incredible. I could not believe it.
Reference : – 1977-11-01





